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Does anyone have experience or know what this could be?   Small red areas size of pinhead to nailhead….with a small white dot in its center. Appears on arms. legs.  The red area can remain small or  grow  as large  as a large nailhead.  When it goes away, it leaves a dry area and sometimes a whitening of the skin patch.  They appeared whether outside in sun or not and any time of year.   I was experiencing  many of them before my DX  and will upon occasion have a couple now,   even tho’ my sugars are in non-diabetic ranges for 98% of the time….A1c of 5.0.  T2.       I was watching TV one day (before DX)  and I believe  it was actress Gene Teirny, who died   whom they say awoke one morning to find red spots ….  (and the darned red spots had something to do with  her demise).   Due to my ingrained  ostrich   mentality,  I switched channels very quickly!   Since my DX  I have faced a lot of my  niggling health  issues but where these red spots are concerned, my ostrich beak is still in the sand!     Memory

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone have experience or know what this could be?   Small red areas > size of pinhead to nailhead….with a small white dot in its center. > Appears on arms. legs.  The red area can remain small or  grow  as large as > a large nailhead.  When it goes away, it leaves a dry area and sometimes a > whitening of the skin patch.  They appeared whether outside in sun or not > and any time of year.   I was experiencing  many of them before my DX  and > will upon occasion have a couple now,   even tho’ my sugars are in > non-diabetic ranges for 98% of the time….A1c of 5.0.  T2.       I was > watching TV one day (before DX)  and I believe  it was actress Gene Teirny, > who died   whom they say awoke one morning to find red spots ….  (and the > darned red spots had something to do with  her demise).   Due to my > ingrained  ostrich   mentality,  I switched channels very quickly!   Since > my DX  I have faced a lot of my  niggling health  issues but where these red > spots are concerned, my ostrich beak is still in the sand!     Memory

See a dermatologist.  I had something like this on my neck prior to diagnosis.  It was never determined exactly what it was, but they seemed to go away on their own.  Nothing the Dr. gave me helped.  I’ve since been diagnosed with sebhorriac dermatitis and also psoriasis.  Sometimes it’s hard to tell which is which, but the treatment for both is the same. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

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Memory you cannot be an ostrich anymore,  You may have psoriasis, eczema or seborrah or you might have something else,  It is time to vist the derm and get an accurate diagnosis.  The longer you delay, the worse it could get if you have had it for awhile. The story I know about Gene Tierney was during World War II, she was on a tour when a young girl came up to her and kissed her,.  told her she was her favorite actress.  The girl also told her she had german measles,  Gene was pregnant and caught the german measles,  Her child was born mentally retarded,  Gene suffered many many breakdowns and never got over it .  All because a selfish young girl had to see her idol.  I wonder if this is the story you were watching,  I dont believe I heard that she died as a result of red dots. Loretta please see a doctor — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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Thank you dear Loretta.  I bet the red dots were the German measles (for Gene T).  As I said I switched so quickly I didn’t hear any of the content re this or a child.  In fact, I switched so quickly that there probably was an ensuing rug burn!!!    This has always been in the back of my mind.  No German measles here so whatever this is it is not a Gene Tierny thing…. Yes, I will ask my Dr. about this.  I did mention it very early in my DX and nothing else was said about it.  I have them very seldom.  But I thought it was interesting that before   DX  I could pretty well connect their appearance  to my eating..carbs and  outright sugar stuff.  " Ploooiiiink" That’s the removal of the rest of my head!   Thank you.  Bless.  Memory

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Dr. time….go NOW…could be "just" dermatitis or not but a newsgroup diagnosis is about as valuable as a newsgroup cure.   Small red areas – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> size of pinhead to nailhead….with a small white dot in its center. > Appears on arms. legs.  The red area can remain small or  grow  as large as > a large nailhead.  When it goes away, it leaves a dry area and sometimes a > whitening of the skin patch.

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Okay, at the risk of being gross, my doc told me that diabetics are prone to boils, deep tissue infections, kind of like a mega-pimple.  Some of these can cause quite a lot of complications, but I’m not as informed as I’d like to be about them.  I’ve noticed that some of these ‘boils’, like on my thigh, leave a very curious scar, a little knot that doesn’t go away. I do know that mine occur more often when my sugars are out of control, so for me, they have something to do with my blood sugars. Bonita

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone have experience or know what this could be?   Small red areas > size of pinhead to nailhead….with a small white dot in its center. > Appears on arms. legs.  The red area can remain small or  grow  as large as > a large nailhead.  When it goes away, it leaves a dry area and sometimes a > whitening of the skin patch.  They appeared whether outside in sun or not > and any time of year.   I was experiencing  many of them before my DX and > will upon occasion have a couple now,   even tho’ my sugars are in > non-diabetic ranges for 98% of the time….A1c of 5.0.  T2.       I was > watching TV one day (before DX)  and I believe  it was actress Gene Teirny, > who died   whom they say awoke one morning to find red spots ….  (and the > darned red spots had something to do with  her demise).   Due to my > ingrained  ostrich   mentality,  I switched channels very quickly! Since > my DX  I have faced a lot of my  niggling health  issues but where these red > spots are concerned, my ostrich beak is still in the sand!     Memory

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone have experience or know what this could be?   Small red areas > size of pinhead to nailhead….with a small white dot in its center. > Appears on arms. legs.  The red area can remain small or  grow  as large as > a large nailhead.  When it goes away, it leaves a dry area and sometimes a > whitening of the skin patch.  They appeared whether outside in sun or not > and any time of year.   I was experiencing  many of them before my DX  and > will upon occasion have a couple now,   even tho’ my sugars are in > non-diabetic ranges for 98% of the time….A1c of 5.0.  T2.       I was > watching TV one day (before DX)  and I believe  it was actress Gene Teirny, > who died   whom they say awoke one morning to find red spots ….  (and the > darned red spots had something to do with  her demise).   Due to my > ingrained  ostrich   mentality,  I switched channels very quickly!   Since > my DX  I have faced a lot of my  niggling health  issues but where these red > spots are concerned, my ostrich beak is still in the sand!     Memory

Memory, My stepson had those EXACT same things that would appear on his arm and a couple of places on his neck when he was a young teen.   They would tend to recur in the same places and then heal up again in between.   We never found out what they were, but they did go away.   I agree that a dermatologist ought to check them out.   My stepson tried nystatin cream and various antibiotic creams and nothing seemed to really work for any long period of time, as I said they did tend to recur. He planned to get them diagnosed properly by a dermatologist if they recurred but they never did. Hope you are able to identify and treat them. Regards, Evelyn

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Any Lyme disease in the neighborhood? Just a thought. Sleepy >Does anyone have experience or know what this could be?   Small red areas >size of pinhead to nailhead….with a small white dot in its center. >Appears on arms. legs.  The red area can remain small or  grow  as large  as >a large nailhead.  When it goes away, it leaves a dry area and sometimes a >whitening of the skin patch.  They appeared whether outside in sun or not >and any time of year.   I was experiencing  many of them before my DX  and >will upon occasion have a couple now,   even tho’ my sugars are in >non-diabetic ranges for 98% of the time….A1c of 5.0.  T2.       I was >watching TV one day (before DX)  and I believe  it was actress Gene Teirny, >who died   whom they say awoke one morning to find red spots ….  (and the >darned red spots had something to do with  her demise).   Due to my >ingrained  ostrich   mentality,  I switched channels very quickly!   Since >my DX  I have faced a lot of my  niggling health  issues but where these red >spots are concerned, my ostrich beak is still in the sand!     Memory

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> Does anyone have experience or know what this could be?   Small red areas > size of pinhead to nailhead….with a small white dot in its center. > Appears on arms. legs.  The red area can remain small or  grow  as large  as > a large nailhead.  When it goes away, it leaves a dry area and sometimes a > whitening of the skin patch.  They appeared whether outside in sun or not > and any time of year.   I was experiencing  many of them before my DX  and > will upon occasion have a couple now,

Anything from tiny insect bites with an allergic reaction to "Lichen Planus" It’s definitely dermatologist time. — Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury      `-_-’    Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us         U       "The Line Eater is a boojum snark."     Hug your wolf.

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> Does anyone have experience or know what this could be?   Small red > areas size of pinhead to nailhead….with a small white dot in its > center. Appears on arms. legs.  The red area can remain small or > grow  as large  as a large nailhead.  When it goes away, it leaves a > dry area and sometimes a whitening of the skin patch.  They appeared > whether outside in sun or not and any time of year.   I was > experiencing  many of them before my DX  and will upon occasion have > a couple now,

Have you ever suffered from food allergies? Are you lactose intolerant? Your skin condition sounds a _lot_ like Dermatitis Herpetiformis, a condition associated with Celiac disease. Do they look like the pictures here: http://www.gastrolab.net/ng016.htm Regards, James the Elder

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James.  Thank you so much for posting those pics for me.  It is something I willbring up to the Dr.  But, mine are never scabby looky.  I don’t think this is it but who knows.  I will ask the  Dr.  Again Thank You!!     Bless Memory

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> James.  Thank you so much for posting those pics for me.  It is > something I willbring up to the Dr.  But, mine are never scabby > looky.  I don’t think this is it but who knows.  I will ask the  Dr. > Again Thank You!!     Bless Memory

You can also check some images here: http://www.dermis.net/doia/diagnose.asp?zugr=d&lang=e&diagnr=694000&t…, but please remember that these images all tend to be worst case. Checking with your Doc is, of course, the best course of action. You could be seeing something that’s simply a reaction to your new laundry detergent. Good luck. James the Elder

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Some form of bacterial infection.  When your bg is high, it thrives on the excess sugars. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Thank you dear Loretta.  I bet the red dots were the German measles (for > Gene T).  As I said I switched so quickly I didn’t hear any of the content > re this or a child.  In fact, I switched so quickly that there probably was > an ensuing rug burn!!!    This has always been in the back of my mind.  No > German measles here so whatever this is it is not a Gene Tierny thing…. > Yes, I will ask my Dr. about this.  I did mention it very early in my DX and > nothing else was said about it.  I have them very seldom.  But I thought it > was interesting that before   DX  I could pretty well connect their > appearance  to my eating..carbs and  outright sugar stuff.  " Ploooiiiink" > That’s the removal of the rest of my head!   Thank you.  Bless.  Memory

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Doesn’t sound like P. It’s more like "extreme" peeling, like your skin is letting go to easily . P for me started with irritated dry skin and unbareable itching. Then the red bumps started that became white and flakey. I never had my skin come off in large patches before. I think you may have a severe type of eczema or something. (it could easily be the "or something") Misty. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> After years of visiting doctors (allergists, dermatologists, and gp’s) > I still don’t have a diagnosis of what is happening to my hand. > Here’s what I’ve determined from experience. > "It" starts during a time of particularly harsh ’strain’ or ’stress’ > on the body, usually associated with substantial pain.  The most > recent outbreak started during an emergency root canal. > "It" is always only on my left hand palm and middle finger. > "It" starts with the affected areas turning a slight redish color, > becoming sensitive to heat, and having a slightly elevated > temperature. > "It" then progresses to the affected area’s skin becoming hard and > insensitive as the skin seems to die in place.  Then the skin begins > separating from the new skin growing underneath.  During this phase > the skin is susceptable to cracking and peeling if exposed to too much > water.  It is also itching. > Then, the old skin begins separating in complete sections, only > breaking at the ‘joints’ or wrinkles on the fingers.  The skin > underneath is new, slightly pinkish, and occasionally (if the finger > tip comes off too soon) without a finger print.  The palm can come off > in one entire piece! > The new skin is sensitive to touch, temperature, and texture, but > eventually it matures into regular skin. > The whole episode can last anywhere from 1 1/2 weeks to 4 weeks. > Then, I have normal hands for periods as long as 8 years before my > next root canal, out patient surgery, severe flu, etc etc. > Is "it" Psoriasis?

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After years of visiting doctors (allergists, dermatologists, and gp’s) I still don’t have a diagnosis of what is happening to my hand. Here’s what I’ve determined from experience. "It" starts during a time of particularly harsh ’strain’ or ’stress’ on the body, usually associated with substantial pain.  The most recent outbreak started during an emergency root canal. "It" is always only on my left hand palm and middle finger. "It" starts with the affected areas turning a slight redish color, becoming sensitive to heat, and having a slightly elevated temperature. "It" then progresses to the affected area’s skin becoming hard and insensitive as the skin seems to die in place.  Then the skin begins separating from the new skin growing underneath.  During this phase the skin is susceptable to cracking and peeling if exposed to too much water.  It is also itching. Then, the old skin begins separating in complete sections, only breaking at the ‘joints’ or wrinkles on the fingers.  The skin underneath is new, slightly pinkish, and occasionally (if the finger tip comes off too soon) without a finger print.  The palm can come off in one entire piece! The new skin is sensitive to touch, temperature, and texture, but eventually it matures into regular skin. The whole episode can last anywhere from 1 1/2 weeks to 4 weeks. Then, I have normal hands for periods as long as 8 years before my next root canal, out patient surgery, severe flu, etc etc. Is "it" Psoriasis?

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Thanks for posting that link. I hadn’t heard this info before and its good news for me since I’m in my 30’s!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > > I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the > vaccination > > > > against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific > skin > > > > diseases are involved. > > > > Anybody have experience with this? > > > I had a smallpox injection round about 1973 when there was an accident > in > > a > > > laboratory in Britain and all countries round about demanded one from > us > > > tourists. > > > My doctor was loth to give it but apart from a very sore arm for a > week > I > > > had no further complications.   I have had no worse psoriasis than > before > > > but I suggest you ask your dermatologist’s advice. > > > The  vaccine in the USA is apparently different from the one used in > the > > UK > > > though, according to reports. > > > BTW  My injection is apparently still valid after all these years as > it > > has > > > recently been found that there is still protection with it for 35 > years > > and > > > more. > > > see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2222225.stm > > > My psoriasis is still lessening as well so all in all I can see no > problem > > > with it. Just my opinion though! > > > Maddie > > Report of the CDC Public Forum on Smallpox

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/CDC_Public_hear… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > port.html > I still haven’t found any direct warnings to psoriasis sufferers, but the > casual association in terms does suggest due diligence before investing > oneself in any special effects laden fast track needle slam dance on the > epidermal shield.  It looks like it’s time to call up the deep mining > Randallization research team effort, if for at least to test the local > bandwidth limitations of the inquiring rational mind. > "It’s very hard to say without a clear threat who should and who shouldn’t > be vaccinated," said Tara O’Toole, director of the Johns Hopkins Center > for > Civilian Biodefense Strategies. "Some analyses suggest that if you have > ever > had eczema or live with someone who has, you shouldn’t get vaccinated, and > by some estimates that eliminates 30 million Americans." > "But the issue is complicated because the vaccine, made from a live virus, > carries risks to patients with skin disorders and immune system > deficiencies, including people with AIDS. And those who are vulnerable are > endangered not only by being inoculated, but also by contact with others > who > have been inoculated."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/24/national/24SMAL.html?ex=1033876800&… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 05a1cefdce65&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE > (copy and paste entire URL) > Since dermatologists and infectious disease specialists serve on the front > line, they will be prioritized to receive the shot.  Hmmm.. avoiding > contact > with specific others who have been vaccinated?  A genuine healthy reason > for > the skin disordered to avoid dermatologists?  No further appreciative > hugging of our doctors?  Will the side-FX and unwanted direct-FX generate > too many significant questions for us to process and answer?  And, then, > there is always the positive possibility of a remarkable cure surfacing > unexpectedly and paradoxically from the combination involved in the > imprecise brew.  In regard to psoriasis or any other sidelined disease > that > begs those magic winning numbers, we can hope, sometimes unusual > breakthroughs ride on horses with another name… > More published viewpoints: > Smallpox threat scares Sandia expert > http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news02/092702_news_zelicoff.shtml > Doctor: Smallpox Not a Bio-terror Threat > http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=22085 > There must be lots of people like me who had got psoriasis and had the > smallpox vaccine in the UK.  Millions of people in the UK had to have the > jab in the 70s whilst the scare lasted and I expect lots of people took the > chance so that they could go on holiday. > I expect the authorities didn’t think of asking for  records at the time > from local GPs.

That classic *didn’t think* seems apropo at first glance.  There is something that’s a little crazy about all of this, but this is earth, and these are crazy times.  Fast-tracking is just another bold term for shoot first and sort out the results later.  The first to be innocculated will be in the front line of the real world testing phase.  There will be some complications, and unfortunately the needs of the many outway the needs of the few.  It all boils down to unknowns and alternatives; at some point we run out of time to learn from our mistakes.  I feel we need to continue to educate ourselves on this matter as it relates to survival and quality of life.  I only hope we can collect sufficient valuable data to construct a more sensible model on which to base an emergency program before the big whistle blows and the general public loses all rationality to fear and panic.  My skin has me quite sensitized to this issue. "Some analyses suggest that if you have ever had eczema or live with someone who has, you shouldn’t get vaccinated, and  by some estimates that eliminates 30 million Americans / the issue is complicated because the vaccine, made from a live virus, carries risks to patients with skin disorders and immune system deficiencies" http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/24/national/24SMAL.html?ex=1033876800&… 05a1cefdce65&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE -Dan

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > > I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the vaccination > > > against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific skin > > > diseases are involved. > > > Anybody have experience with this? > > I had a smallpox injection round about 1973 when there was an accident > in > a > > laboratory in Britain and all countries round about demanded one from us > > tourists. > > My doctor was loth to give it but apart from a very sore arm for a week > I > > had no further complications.   I have had no worse psoriasis than > before > > but I suggest you ask your dermatologist’s advice. > > The  vaccine in the USA is apparently different from the one used in the > UK > > though, according to reports. > > BTW  My injection is apparently still valid after all these years as it > has > > recently been found that there is still protection with it for 35 years > and > > more. > > see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2222225.stm > > My psoriasis is still lessening as well so all in all I can see no > problem > > with it. Just my opinion though! > > Maddie > Report of the CDC Public Forum on Smallpox

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/CDC_Public_hear… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> port.html > I still haven’t found any direct warnings to psoriasis sufferers, but the > casual association in terms does suggest due diligence before investing > oneself in any special effects laden fast track needle slam dance on the > epidermal shield.  It looks like it’s time to call up the deep mining > Randallization research team effort, if for at least to test the local > bandwidth limitations of the inquiring rational mind. > "It’s very hard to say without a clear threat who should and who shouldn’t > be vaccinated," said Tara O’Toole, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for > Civilian Biodefense Strategies. "Some analyses suggest that if you have ever > had eczema or live with someone who has, you shouldn’t get vaccinated, and > by some estimates that eliminates 30 million Americans." > "But the issue is complicated because the vaccine, made from a live virus, > carries risks to patients with skin disorders and immune system > deficiencies, including people with AIDS. And those who are vulnerable are > endangered not only by being inoculated, but also by contact with others who > have been inoculated."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/24/national/24SMAL.html?ex=1033876800&… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 05a1cefdce65&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE > (copy and paste entire URL) > Since dermatologists and infectious disease specialists serve on the front > line, they will be prioritized to receive the shot.  Hmmm.. avoiding contact > with specific others who have been vaccinated?  A genuine healthy reason for > the skin disordered to avoid dermatologists?  No further appreciative > hugging of our doctors?  Will the side-FX and unwanted direct-FX generate > too many significant questions for us to process and answer?  And, then, > there is always the positive possibility of a remarkable cure surfacing > unexpectedly and paradoxically from the combination involved in the > imprecise brew.  In regard to psoriasis or any other sidelined disease that > begs those magic winning numbers, we can hope, sometimes unusual > breakthroughs ride on horses with another name… > More published viewpoints: > Smallpox threat scares Sandia expert > http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news02/092702_news_zelicoff.shtml > Doctor: Smallpox Not a Bio-terror Threat > http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=22085

There must be lots of people like me who had got psoriasis and had the smallpox vaccine in the UK.  Millions of people in the UK had to have the jab in the 70s whilst the scare lasted and I expect lots of people took the chance so that they could go on holiday. I expect the authorities didn’t think of asking for  records at the time from local GPs. — Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the vaccination > > against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific skin > > diseases are involved. > > Anybody have experience with this? > I had a smallpox injection round about 1973 when there was an accident in > a > laboratory in Britain and all countries round about demanded one from us > tourists. > My doctor was loth to give it but apart from a very sore arm for a week I > had no further complications.   I have had no worse psoriasis than before > but I suggest you ask your dermatologist’s advice. > The  vaccine in the USA is apparently different from the one used in the > UK > though, according to reports. > BTW  My injection is apparently still valid after all these years as it > has > recently been found that there is still protection with it for 35 years > and > more. > see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2222225.stm > My psoriasis is still lessening as well so all in all I can see no problem > with it. Just my opinion though! > Maddie > Report of the CDC Public Forum on Smallpox

http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/CDC_Public_hear… > port.html

I still haven’t found any direct warnings to psoriasis sufferers, but the casual association in terms does suggest due diligence before investing oneself in any special effects laden fast track needle slam dance on the epidermal shield.  It looks like it’s time to call up the deep mining Randallization research team effort, if for at least to test the local bandwidth limitations of the inquiring rational mind. "It’s very hard to say without a clear threat who should and who shouldn’t be vaccinated," said Tara O’Toole, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Strategies. "Some analyses suggest that if you have ever had eczema or live with someone who has, you shouldn’t get vaccinated, and by some estimates that eliminates 30 million Americans." "But the issue is complicated because the vaccine, made from a live virus, carries risks to patients with skin disorders and immune system deficiencies, including people with AIDS. And those who are vulnerable are endangered not only by being inoculated, but also by contact with others who have been inoculated." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/24/national/24SMAL.html?ex=1033876800&… 05a1cefdce65&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE (copy and paste entire URL) Since dermatologists and infectious disease specialists serve on the front line, they will be prioritized to receive the shot.  Hmmm.. avoiding contact with specific others who have been vaccinated?  A genuine healthy reason for the skin disordered to avoid dermatologists?  No further appreciative hugging of our doctors?  Will the side-FX and unwanted direct-FX generate too many significant questions for us to process and answer?  And, then, there is always the positive possibility of a remarkable cure surfacing unexpectedly and paradoxically from the combination involved in the imprecise brew.  In regard to psoriasis or any other sidelined disease that begs those magic winning numbers, we can hope, sometimes unusual breakthroughs ride on horses with another name… More published viewpoints: Smallpox threat scares Sandia expert http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news02/092702_news_zelicoff.shtml Doctor: Smallpox Not a Bio-terror Threat http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=22085 –Dan An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his friends.        – Ernest Hemingway

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I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the vaccination against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific skin diseases are involved. Anybody have experience with this?

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> I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the vaccination > against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific skin > diseases are involved. > Anybody have experience with this?

I had a smallpox injection round about 1973 when there was an accident in a laboratory in Britain and all countries round about demanded one from us tourists. My doctor was loth to give it but apart from a very sore arm for a week I had no further complications.   I have had no worse psoriasis than before but I suggest you ask your dermatologist’s advice. The  vaccine in the USA is apparently different from the one used in the UK though, according to reports. BTW  My injection is apparently still valid after all these years as it has recently been found that there is still protection with it for 35 years and more. see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2222225.stm My psoriasis is still lessening as well so all in all I can see no problem with it. Just my opinion though! Maddie — Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I understand that certain skin diseases can complicate the vaccination > against smallpox. But I can’t find any specifics on what specific skin > diseases are involved. > Anybody have experience with this? > I had a smallpox injection round about 1973 when there was an accident in a > laboratory in Britain and all countries round about demanded one from us > tourists. > My doctor was loth to give it but apart from a very sore arm for a week I > had no further complications.   I have had no worse psoriasis than before > but I suggest you ask your dermatologist’s advice. > The  vaccine in the USA is apparently different from the one used in the UK > though, according to reports. > BTW  My injection is apparently still valid after all these years as it has > recently been found that there is still protection with it for 35 years and > more. > see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2222225.stm > My psoriasis is still lessening as well so all in all I can see no problem > with it. Just my opinion though! > Maddie

Report of the CDC Public Forum on Smallpox http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vaccine_awareness/CDC_Public_hear… port.html

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I’m sorry you have this on your face. I can imagine your embarrassment… however, when you have this on your hands… onlookers can still SEE it plus you can’t DO anything…. housework bathing/washing hair brushing teeth getting dressed getting kids dressed DRIVING writing typing Also, having it on your hands is a direct threat to your working/ability to earn money, that’s why many people who have it on their hands qualify for disability. Anyway, goodluck with your condition. I’m glad you found a good derm. Bekki

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Dang. I forgot to tell you…. The greasy stuff is triamcinolone acetonide  ointment. I used the cream version of this stuff with no success. He said the ointment was better – but I don’t look for it to do much. Bekki

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I know what you mean about incompetent derm doctors. I have Sebbhorea on my face. I have had it for 10 years. Through the years some spots have kind of cleared up while other areas have started to flare. As with P. it comes and goes.  Be thankful you have it on your hands and not your face. As far as doctors, the first doctor I went to was a total jerk…he looked at me for about 30 seconds and just prescribed Tetrocyclene…which did nothing. The second doctor I went to was MUCH better. Took time to explain what could be done and reccommended certain medications that helped.  I have taken cortisone shots and it works really well with Seb. but doc only reccommends them every 6mos. good luck shane

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> J. > My hands/fingers have several deep cracks in them and since I’ve let it go for > so long, it’s quite obvious they’re infected. That’s why he prescribed the > antibiotic. (That happens a lot to me – and the infection is about as bad as > the P itself.)

My hands respond well to a tar ointment.  It’s something that my Derm prescribed and the pharmacist compounded.  The label on the ointment reads "C-TAC 0.1% /LCD 10%".  It cost $16.04 for enough to last me a couple of months. I smear the stuff on my fingers and hands and put on cotton gloves and wear them to bed at night.  I see good results in a few days and am usually totally clear in a few weeks.  I haven’t tried the same treatment with MG217 but it may work as well, and is over-the-counter. I hope this helps, SteveD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We discussed the idea of taking prednisone for too long. He said he respected > my concern but when the P gets as bad as mine is, it’s unhealthy to not use > something that will work fast. That’s why he mentioned the injections. He said > it’s less harmful to the body that way – which I kind of doubt. [snip] > Bekki

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J. My hands/fingers have several deep cracks in them and since I’ve let it go for so long, it’s quite obvious they’re infected. That’s why he prescribed the antibiotic. (That happens a lot to me – and the infection is about as bad as the P itself.) We discussed the idea of taking prednisone for too long. He said he respected my concern but when the P gets as bad as mine is, it’s unhealthy to not use something that will work fast. That’s why he mentioned the injections. He said it’s less harmful to the body that way – which I kind of doubt. On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst, my hands are probably at a 6 or 7. They’re in worse shape now than they’ve been in a long time. I don’t go to a doc unless it gets really bad because I don’t have medical insurance and have to pay the office visit and all the meds out of pocket. He jumped on me for letting them get this bad… but what’s the sense in going when I can live with it? Ya know? It’s been about 6 months since I’ve taken prednisone. I had a prescription leftover in my cabinet and have made a personal choice to NOT take it all these months because I’ve read such bad things about it. But when my hands/fingers get THIS bad, I’ll take just about anything. I’m sure you know the feeling well. I was actually a little relieved when he said he was going to give me prednisone. I have to take 30 mg for 7 days, then 20 mg for 7 days, then 10 mg for 5 days and then I go back. Fall was bad for me last year starting in October. I figure that’s where I’m heading now… like it got last fall. Did you say you did or didn’t try the Ultravate? Bekki

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>Yeah, thanks. >He said it was something or other… some kind of eczema – and I said, "hmm. I >thought it was pustular P" and he said, "it doesn’t really matter – it’s all >treated the same way." >Gee… THAT was reassuring. NOT. >Anyway, prednisone, keflex, and some greasy ointment.blahblahblah.

Sounds like he’s all over the map.  While I have heard of it being prescribed more for unknown conditions, using prednisone for psoriasis is not really recommended, especially beyond a couple of weeks.  It often *works* short-term, but the psoriasis returns, and you are even at risk for "rebound" where it comes back worse than it started. Keflex is an antibiotic.  I wonder if he prescribed it for the primary condition or because he thought there might be secondary infections. OTOH, antibiotic treatment for psoriasis is sometimes tried, and Keflex is often named for that.  With the prednisone, … hmmm.   (and watch out for your intestinal flora while you’re on the stuff, I tried another antibiotic for psoriasis early this year, and I suspect some problems I had afterwards may have been related along those lines). >So, in a week I’ll be in amazing shape. And then it’ll come back. He said it >was chronic and all we could really do is keep it from getting as bad as it is >right now. He said that I might be better off getting cortisone shots – it’s >not as hard on the body. But for now, I’m taking prednisone pills. >He mentioned he wanted to give me ultravate but said it was expensive so I >opted for a less expensive ointment for now.

What’s the (greasy) one you did get? >Anyone tried Ultravate… or cortisone shots? How’d you do?

Tried the shots early on.  One shot cleared one spot.  OK.  Second shot cleared nothing.  Third shot cleared nothing.  No more shots.  If you have more than X spots, it’s probably not a good idea anyway. It turns out for me and a few others that the cortisones don’t work very well for us, even in the short term.  For some lucky ones it works great.  Most others probably fall in-between. — The other question is how bad shape you’re really in.  Again, I’ve heard of prednisone used short-term to get on top of a bad flare.   It’s an interesting mix he prescribed.  Let’s hope for the best! J.

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I’m going to a derm tomorrow. Since I have no health insurance, my derm visits are few and far between. I wonder what WONDERFUL and AMAZING things he’ll have to say. (Yes, I’m being sarcastic.) I went to this guy when my hands first broke out. He gave me Psorcon, prednisone, and told me they would clear me up but if it came back, we’d need to look at what might be causing it. It did clear it up but it came right back – and I didn’t go back. When I decided to go to a derm about 5 months ago, the first one was on vacation so I went to another one. That guy was convinced I had some deadly disease. He tested me for HIV, lupus, etc…. when all that came back okay, he said he wanted to do a chest x-ray and test me for tuberculosis. At that point, I came to the conclusion that he was pretty much a moron. I haven’t been to anymore derms since then. ( I have no symptoms of any of these diseases.) I’ve never been officially diagnosed with P. The moron doc said, "uh.. erm…. it looks like a kind of psoriasis" and the inflection in his voice at the end of the statement led me to believe he had no clue. It was more like a question than a declaration. Anyway, maybe the doc I’m going to tomorrow can enlighten me. Wish me luck. Bekki

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>Anyway, maybe the doc I’m going to tomorrow can enlighten >me. Wish me luck.

Luck. J.

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Yeah, thanks. He said it was something or other… some kind of eczema – and I said, "hmm. I thought it was pustular P" and he said, "it doesn’t really matter – it’s all treated the same way." Gee… THAT was reassuring. NOT. Anyway, prednisone, keflex, and some greasy ointment.blahblahblah. So, in a week I’ll be in amazing shape. And then it’ll come back. He said it was chronic and all we could really do is keep it from getting as bad as it is right now. He said that I might be better off getting cortisone shots – it’s not as hard on the body. But for now, I’m taking prednisone pills. He mentioned he wanted to give me ultravate but said it was expensive so I opted for a less expensive ointment for now. Anyone tried Ultravate… or cortisone shots? How’d you do? Bekki

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>My bro who lives in LA sent me over a bottle of Nutra-E pure vitamin E >concentrated skin oil – apparently it helped his wife who had a rough >eczema patch >Has anyone used anything like this, and if so, any results at all ??

Virtually every moisterizer sold contains vitamin E.  It does tend to make the skin feel a little better.  OTOH, I think it just may aggravate the underlying psoriasis a little bit.  Should be harmless to try it.  Your mileage may vary.   J.

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Like JStern, I’ve tried many forms of Vit E, all without doing anything more than any other moisturizing lotion or oil.  I’ve used 100% Vit E oil straight from a little bottle, squeezed from little capsules, and as an ingredient in various cremes and ointments. Didn’t seem to do much, but sometimes it is enough just to sort of grease up the scales to soften them.  YMMV, like with anything.  Good luck! Best regards,

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Hi all My bro who lives in LA sent me over a bottle of Nutra-E pure vitamin E concentrated skin oil – apparently it helped his wife who had a rough eczema patch Has anyone used anything like this, and if so, any results at all ?? Many thanks Jon

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My son had something that sounds like what you’ve explained.  Do they ‘weep’ any kind of liquid?  His were small little blister-like raised bumps that itched constantly.  When he’d scratch them, they would weep a clear liquid, just like a blister. First we were told, of all things, it was scabies.    Then after about six months of repeatedly using the scabies treatments, he still had the bumps, so we took him to a dermatologist.  She said it was warts and they would go away.  Then, after a year he still had them, so we took him to Emory to have some of the docs in the dermatology department look at him.  They did biopsies of the lesions and found no bugs.  They said they thought it was eczema, but that it wasn’t typical eczema. After about six months of treatment with triamcinalone (sp?) they went away. About one month after they disappeared, he developed P on his scalp.  I wonder if it could have been P all along??? J

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I have had p on my elbows for about 20 years.  It never appears anywhere but my elbows.  It rarely itches and mostly I do nothing about it.  About two months ago I developed a rash on various parts of my body – forearm, middle of back, outside left thigh, etc., various random places.  The rash is like small raised lumps no more than 1mm across and absolutely colourless.  They can only be seen by light at grazing incidence, and you can feel them if you run your fingers over the skin.  But they are excruciatingly itchy.  My doctor says it is p, and has given me steroid cream which I have used sometimes in the past for my elbows.  It has had no effect on the itching and I am not convinced that this is p.  Anyone had anything similar, or can shed any light on this?  If it weren’t for the itching I probably would never even notice it. Thanks for your help.

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>Anyone had anything similar, or can shed any light on this?

My respects to your doctor, and have you tried a simple antibiotic ointment like polysporin on it? If that doesn’t do it, you may want to see a dermatologist instead of a general practitioner.  Probably a good idea if you have a little psoriasis, anyway. J.

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might be inverse P, never heard on it on a person’s torso.

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Inverse P? please elaborate Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->might be inverse P, never heard on it on a person’s torso.

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http://www.psoriasis.org/b200.htm#inverse Actually the only places it occurs are on the torso, so the original poster was slightly mistaken about that, but correct in associating the description involving redness and rubbing without flakiness in a skin fold with it as a possibility. It still could be something else and the prescription for ZincOxide indicates that the doctor probably thought more in terms of an eczema or other dermatitis, where they are more likely to be effective. Oh, back to inverse P, given the places it occurs and the ‘open’ skin it creates, it’s not uncommon to have a secondary infection of some sort (fungal, yeast, etc) at the site. So despite the NPF description I pointed you to, it can be moist appearing rather than dry. Kim >Inverse P? >please elaborate >Mary >might be inverse P, never heard on it on a person’s torso.

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hi, I am not sure if my problem is related to psoriasis but I would welcome any of your valuable comments or ideas. Although I am pretty skinny I have a crease in my skin just above my belly button.When I sit down it forms a small skin fold. It is this skin fold that gets irritated, what shows as a clear and very noticable red or pink colored line that runs across my belly. The skin fold  always feels a bit "sweaty" and I think it gets irritated becasue while sitting down the skin of my belly is touching skin and the skinfold is kept moist all the time. I tried a ZnO lotion advised by my dermatologist but that doesn’t help.Do my symptoms sound familiar to anybody,what casues it, what can I do about it, will it ever go away? Thanks in advance for your help

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Hi David- A few key pieces of missing info in your post. Do you already have psoriasis or a family history of it or something – i.e. why would you make the connection. Since you saw a derm, what did your he say it was and why did he prescribe a zinc lotion (since those are more apt to be beneficial for other problems than psoriasis, indicating that he probably thinks it’s something else). Yeah, it could be psoriasis -that’s a fairly common location. But it could be a bunch of other things too, so no way to properly answer any of your other questions. One thought, whatever it is – if the area stays red and moist, maybe there’s a fungal or yeast infection there aggrevating whatever the base problem is. Sorry Kim >hi, >I am not sure if my problem is related to psoriasis but I would >welcome any of your valuable comments or ideas. Although I am pretty >skinny I have a crease in my skin just above my belly button.When I >sit down it forms a small skin fold. It is this skin fold that gets >irritated, what shows as a clear and very noticable red or pink >colored line that runs across my belly. The skin fold  always feels a >bit "sweaty" and I think it gets irritated becasue while sitting down >the skin of my belly is touching skin and the skinfold is kept moist >all the time. I tried a ZnO lotion advised by my dermatologist but >that doesn’t help.Do my symptoms sound familiar to anybody,what casues >it, what can I do about it, will it ever go away? >Thanks in advance for your help

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[snip] >http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/english/content.asp?page_id=13

[snip] Mmmmmm… Seaweed. There are definitely "more than 300" studies of fucoidans (a type of polysaccharide) in the medical literature, but not a single study of Limu Moui itself (and no studies of fucoidans in the treatment of psoriasis – or eczema, or seborrheic dermatitis, or vitiligo, the first skin-disease names that came to mind). And considering the web site seems to be pushing it as a Multi-Level Marketing product ("share with your friends!"), I have grave doubts that there will ever be studies done on Limu Moui.  Except they call it "Referral Marketing," but it doesn’t seem any different.  And I suppose the idea that their system will "ensure perpetuity" only goes for as long as there exist people who don’t sell this product (the population of Tonga, for example, have no need to either buy it or sell it). I see it’s also touted as yet another "perfect food." Besides which, Tonga was ranked 75th in terms of longevity by the WHO in 2000,    http://www.thehealingkitchen.com/NavigationLeft/longevity.shtml so I’d much rather find out what kind of seaweed the Japanese (#1), Swiss (#8), or the British (#14) are eating.  The USA, by the way, was 24th. – Dave W. http://members.aol.com/psorsite/

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LOL,  he said "Mmmmmm… Seaweed".. Isnt that the way homer simpson would say it..

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    Here’s a suggestion.  Every Monday evening at 8:30 p.m. central standard time, there is a live discussion about a product which appears to be helping 8:30 (CST) you can listen in to the call.   Because it’s a "listen" only type of call there is no need to worry about sales hype/pressure.    You could also listen to previous calls by going to http://www.royaltonganlimu.com/english/content.asp?page_id=13  and then click on one of the dates.  The one on 06-17-02 was a good one.  The first part is about company and product info.  Who they are, what this stuff is, why it works, etc. etc.  The guest speakers are in the 2nd half of the call & you can fast forward to them if you want to skip the first part.  IMO the second part of the discussion is the best.   In any case, I wish you well. God Bless real big… Happiness Helps Heal!             :  )

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know this subject has probably been talked about a zillion times > already… But i was just wondering from the majority….Which natural > remedies really do work?  There are so many salesmen out there trying to > make money off of their products…And it is so sad that people try to rip > our hearts out even more with things that dont work..  Having psoriasis > alone is worse enough.. Any info would be appreciated. > mike

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I know this subject has probably been talked about a zillion times already… But i was just wondering from the majority….Which natural remedies really do work?  There are so many salesmen out there trying to make money off of their products…And it is so sad that people try to rip our hearts out even more with things that dont work..  Having psoriasis alone is worse enough.. Any info would be appreciated. mike

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Well, I’d be careful about natural remedies… It’s probably easier to find out from people what doesn’t work. I think it may also be a case of different remedies having different effectiveness depending on what particular flavour of P you have. I tried some Chinese Herbal medicine not too long ago, and I must say it was the foulest crap I’ve ever tasted. (And the biggest waste of money) I’d lost a lot of faith in traditional doctors, and thought there must be something to the ancient way of doing things. (Perhaps there is, but I’m not keen on trying it again). I’ve since been back to my doctor, and he prescribed Eumovate for my face (seb-derm) and Dovonex for the P-patches on my body. Three weeks later I’m not clear, but I am hugely improved. So much so that my overall emotional quality of life is so much better. I don’t feel like a complete outcast. So while there may be something to ‘Natural’ remedies. I wouldn’t totally discount your doctor. I don’t get on with mine that well (I’ve only been to a doctor twice in the last three years, so it’s more impersonal than any sort of dislike) but I’ve been pretty happy with the results. Dave. — If you want to reply by email, please reply with davewasthere or kiwi in the subject header, or the email will get binned as spam. (http://www.davewasthere.com) —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I know this subject has probably been talked about a zillion times > already… But i was just wondering from the majority….Which natural > remedies really do work?  There are so many salesmen out there trying to > make money off of their products…And it is so sad that people try to rip > our hearts out even more with things that dont work..  Having psoriasis > alone is worse enough.. Any info would be appreciated. > mike

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: : I’ve been taking Benadryl every night for years.  It helps : with the itching but does nothing that I can see for the : psoriasis. : : Bob Ranger : Syracuse, NY  USA :

:: :: One of my friends in med school suggested that I might :: take Benedryl nightly to help with P.   :: His rationale: P is like an allergy, where the body :: attacks itself.  Treat it like an allergy?  Now, don’t :: jump all over me, or my friend (who is in the process of :: learning), but is there anyone who has done this? Antihistamines do nothing for my psoriasis in either pill or topical forms.  Not all antihistamines seem to have the anti-itch effect on skin as some seem to work just on nasal/sinus areas.  The dyphenhydramine-based antihistamines (Benadryl) seem to be the ones that work on your whole body (nasal, throat, skin). I take antihistamines to reduce the itching.  The nasal antihistamines don’t do anything for the itching, but Benadryl calms my skin.  Anti-itch meds includes the following in order of decreasing effect for me: a.  Topical Benadryl gel (very strong effect) b.  Topical hydrocortizone (one percent) c.  Zyrtec (5mg oral pill, works about 11 hours) d.  Eucerin anti-itch spray (short term effect) e.  Benadryl (25mg oral pill) I have not tried Allegra yet.  Claritin doesn’t work on my nasal congestion and so I’ve assumed that it also doesn’t work on itching.  Claritin is like that; it works for many people, but there are some that it has no effect upon because they metabolize it such that the intermediate product (which is the actual active ingredient) isn’t made effectively. The HMO doctor doesn’t want to prescribe Zyrtec for me as it is expensive to the HMO and to me (large copay). But because it lasts so long and doesn’t make me drowsy (I am one of the lucky ones for Zyrtec), I buyout a seems to have a "pet" doctor who will tamely write a prescription on his request.  The Zyrtec is a good "emergency" anti-itch for me when I absolutely need a long-lasting anti-itch period of time where I need all of my concentration (and no sleepiness from the dyphenhydramine). Note that the active ingredient in Benadryl is also the active ingredient in Tylenol-brand sleeping pills.  No wonder why taking Benadryl makes so many people sleepy. Zyrtec is a low to moderate sleepiness inducer, so it may be the better choice for many.  However, it is much more expensive as it is a prescription medication. List of best prices for anti-itching antihistamines: a.  Zyrtec – Costco pharmacy b.  Benadryl topical — Walmart, $5.20 for 4oz bottle c.  Benadryl 25mg — Costco, $4 for 400 generic pills!! d.  Benadryl 25mg — Sams Club, $3.29 for 100 generic e.  Benadryl 25mg — Walmart, generic 25mg pills f.  Eucerin anti-itch spray — Walmart g.  hydrocortizone — Costco has best price on tubes h.  hydrocortizone — Sams Club 1/3 higher than costco i.  hydrocortizone — Walmart, generic Equate brand All right, not everything above is an anti-histamine, but I thought you’d appreciate the listing regardless. Obviously, Costco beats Sams Club prices hands down. I guess Sam’s Club has higher prices since it doesn’t want to cannibalize sales at the parent Walmart stores. I’m sure that Sam’s Club could shove the prices lower if the Walmart corporate parent allowed it. If you find a place with better pricing, let us know. A note about the Eucerin anti-itch spray is in order as it makes use of menthol as its active ingredient. I would say that the dimethicone in the spray also has a calming effect on skin.  Because it is a spray, it is convenient to take on trips where I can just umm, give myself a surreptitious squirt. Another note:  Benadryl dosage is up to two of those 25mg pills.  If you are light-weight, perhaps one pill is enough, but if you weigh more, you will probably need the larger dose. In my portable cosmetics bag, I carry Zyrtec, Eucerin spray, and of course the reliable dyphenhydramine. I am not looking forward to the winter; I guess I will have to build up a stockpile of Zyrtec.  I suppose that since the psoriasis items have been taking over most of the space, I should call my cosmetics bag a "psoriasis care bag" but I’m still kind of in the process of denial.  *sigh* help with Zyrtec and other stuff in this posting. It’s good when your friends support you.  It’s kind of like having an effective support group. Lafiel

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>One of my friends in med school suggested that I might take Benedryl nightly >to help with P.  His rationale: P is like an allergy, where the body attacks >itself.  Treat it like an allergy?  Now, don’t jump all over me, or my >friend (who is in the process of learning), but is there anyone who has done >this? >He is the only one besides my fianc

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>Hello all.. >This is my first posting to this group, although i have been reading for some >time now. >Following the article in the Sunday Times I visited my local pharmacist to ask >about Dovobet, and was told that it is not out yet on the market, but then he >mentioned protopic/tacrolimus which he said is very effective in the treatment >of p, and it has only been out since the begining of April here in the U.K.  I >did some research on the internet but it was only mentioned for the treatment >of eczema.. has anyone tried it for p?

Hey Zeinnah You can search the ng archives at google for prior discussion on protopic or any other subject at http://www.pinch.com/skin Short answer is that yes it has been tried, it was originally thought to be pretty much ineffective for P but has subsequently shown to be more effective in some cases particularly in places where steroids are contra-indicated such as face and groin. As for Dovobet, I looked it up when you posted this. It’s just a combination of dovonex and steroid. Dovonex and steroid from separate prescriptions but used in combination have been shown to be more effective for many than either singly, so this makes sense as an approach. But there are some other options open to you -just get a prescription for both and use them together or get a prescription to have your pharmacy compound them together. You’re going to need to get a prescription for the Dovobet anyway. It should be on the market fairly soon I’d think anyway as marketing authorization was given in Feb 2002 per the UK medicines control site at Http:// www.mca.gov.uk Maybe some of the delay is that it’s a canadian company?? Anyway, definitely consider giving the combined dovonex (daivonex) and steroid therapy a try, probably before the tacrolimus IMO as I believe it’s got a better record for effectiveness. And I’d be more comfortable using them as separate Rxs used in combination than the premixed Dovobet anyway because you are supposed to pulse use on steroids to lower side effect risk, while daivonex needs to be used fairly continually to be effective. Kim The Psoriasis Newsgroup Resource FAQ can be found at               http://pfaq.cjb.net but will also be coming soon (twice a month) to a            newsgroup near you…

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Hello all.. This is my first posting to this group, although i have been reading for some time now. Following the article in the Sunday Times I visited my local pharmacist to ask about Dovobet, and was told that it is not out yet on the market, but then he mentioned protopic/tacrolimus which he said is very effective in the treatment of p, and it has only been out since the begining of April here in the U.K.  I did some research on the internet but it was only mentioned for the treatment of eczema.. has anyone tried it for p? Thanks

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